Talk:adstutia

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RFV discussion: October 2019–July 2021[edit]

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I'm not sure what's going on with this entry. In Latin, the consonant cluster dst only occurs in morphologically complex words that contain the prepositional prefix ad-. However, there is no base word stutia or stutus for a prefixed word "ad-stutia" to be built on. A prefixed word like "adstutia" would be expected to have the alternative form astutia, with elision of the d; compare astrictiō and adstrictiō. There is a Latin word astūtia, but it does not seem to contain the prefix ad-: it is from the adjective astūtus, from astus, whose etymology is a little unclear. The spelling adstutia could have arisen by analogy with words that did start with the prefix ad-, but I can't find that form actually listed in any reliable dictionary entry for astutia. The meaning is also slightly different ("adstutia" supposedly means "diplomacy", while "astūtia" is more like "cunning"). Can anyone confirm whether "adstutia" exists as anything other than a misspelling of astūtia?--Urszag (talk) 08:24, 6 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

A few occurrences in Late Latin: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. I am not sure how to place this, but it seems to arise from a false splitting. But why the effort to throw in an extra d? A pedantic way of showing off? I have not looked at the senses of these uses.  --Lambiam 21:27, 6 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Passed on the basis of Lambiam's cites and others I found and put on the citations page. For now I defined it as a misspelling of astūtia; if any would like to revise this further, go ahead. - -sche (discuss) 23:55, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply