Talk:whither

Needs different translations sometimes when it's not a question, e.g. adonde vs adónde in Spanish 83.216.94.59 15:09, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

True, Proto-Slavic and Common-Slavic distinguished those two, Old Church Slavonic distinguished interrogative and relative forms of pronouns and prominal adverbs everywhere: камѡ (kamo, “whither (interrogative)”), ꙗмѡ (jamo, “, whither (relative)”), кѧдѣ (kędě, “, whence (interrogative”), кѧдꙋ (kędu, “, whence (interrogative)”), ѭдѣ (jǫdě, “, whence (relative”), ѭдꙋ (jǫdu, “, whence (relative)”), коли (koli, “when (interrogative)”), ѥли (jeli, “when (relative)”) and so on. Today’s Slavic languages have mostly chosen one, Polish jak, Russian как (kak), etc. Fay Freak (talk) 16:25, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

into what state

"Microsoft® Encarta® 2009" adds the meaning 2. to what state, condition, outcome, or degree, which can be also seen in the entry of where --Backinstadiums (talk) 15:44, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Conjunction

Just as the conjunctive use of its antonym whence

To whatever place, purpose, etc
Go whither the sun rises.
https://www.wordreference.com/definition/whither

--Backinstadiums (talk) 10:13, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Interrogative adverb?

adv
1. to what place?
2. to what end or purpose?
https://www.wordreference.com/definition/whither

--Backinstadiums (talk) 10:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Examples not at all irrelevant

Hi Sgconlaw, I'm fine with the reversion (I'm not asking to challenge it), just not with the assertion in the edit summary — the assertion that it "doesn’t have anything to do with the contents of the table and its note". Come now, it obviously does have lots to do with it. The examples that were added are basic examples of how each word would be used in a short clause, with modern and antiquated equivalents (translations). It helps people see how each word is used via a cardinal, simple example. Again, not asking to restore it, just defending the obvious logic. Quercus solaris (talk) 13:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@Quercus solaris: my understanding of the table's intent is to indicate that one can replace, for example, "from there" with "thence". I don't think this is made any clearer by the addition of "get out of there" or "get thee thence!". How does that relate to "from there"? (In fact, I am puzzled by "get thee thence" Is it supposed to mean "get thee from there"?) As I said, create a separate "See also" entry, by all means, but it is confusing to insert those sentences into the existing table. — Sgconlaw (talk) 15:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, The connection is "same meaning": "get out of there" or "get thee thence" are ways of saying (in present-day idiomatic English and centuries-old English, respectively) "remove yourself from there". Similarly, "get out of here" or "get thee hence!" are ways of saying (in present-day idiomatic English and centuries-old English, respectively) "remove yourself from here". But I'll leave the entry as-is. I'll think about maybe an {{examples}} box instead. Thanks, Quercus solaris (talk) 17:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

PS: Below (/at right)) is a way to present the info as a box of examples. This would be useful to some people, but as for where to put it (i.e., which entry or appendix), I won't worry about it for now. Each of the examples could easily be a {{ux}} item at each word's entry. I might do that later. The collation of them all together in one box is useful too (pedagogically), but the question of where (i.e., at which place within the mainspace) to put it is relevant. I'll just leave it here (for now, or forever, who knows). Quercus solaris (talk) 17:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Examples

to hither — "come here!" = "come hither!" means come [to] here thither — "go there!" = "go thither!" means go [to] there whither — "where are you going?" = "whither goest thou?" means [to] where are you going? from hence — "get out of here!" = "get thee hence!" means go away from here thence — "get out of there!" = "get thee thence!" means go away from there whence — "where are you coming from?" = "whence comest thou?" means from where are you coming?

@Quercus solaris: I suppose you could put it under "Usage notes" or as a separate section under "See also", but in both cases the information would probably be better presented as a bulleted list rather than in an example box, which would be very long vertically. — Sgconlaw (talk) 18:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)