Template talk:hyphenation

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Any objection to changing Hyphenation: to {{#if:{{{nocaption|}}}||Hyphenation: }}? It would allow multiple hyphenation schemes for the same word (as {{hyphenation|a|be|ce|da|ry}}, {{hyphenation|nocaption=1|ab|ec|ed|ar|y}}).—msh210℠ 17:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Done and docs updated. Conrad.Irwin 22:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Unicode hyphenation point U+2027

U+2027 is specifically meant for this purpose. It has been in Unicode as long as the middle dot, appears to have the same Unicode characteristics (although it breaks at the end of a line in Safari, while the middle dot doesn't), and is present in a lot of the common fonts on my Mac, including Arial Unicode MS, which is present in Windows. (It's even present under "Misc." in Wiktionary's character-entry shortcuts below the edit field.)

Is there any reason not to use the character meant for this purpose? —Michael Z. 2008-05-11 22:09 z

• U+00B7 middle dot: hy·phen·a·tion
• U+2027 hyphenation point: hy‧phen‧a‧tion

Not that I know of, I've set the template to use it. Conrad.Irwin 22:18, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

My browser can't see the "hyphenation point", but can see the "middle dot". Lǽm. — [ R I C ] opiaterein — 19:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

What browser/version/operating system are you using? Do you see squares, blank spaces, or what? —Michael Z. 2009-04-22 21:26 z

Opera 9.64, Windows XP, squares. And actual squares, not the tall rectangles. — [ R I C ] opiaterein — 14:20, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

If it's not the standard no-glyph character, then that may mean that the font in use actually has a square glyph for that code point, rather than nothing. Sucks when that happens.

On your system, can you try Firefox and MSIE to see whether you see the same? I'll assume you haven't removed any of Windows' default fonts. —Michael Z. 2009-04-23 14:59 z

I can see the points in FireFox, but Opera is my main browser... I don't think I've ever deleted a font actually lol. My Opera default fonts are Times New Roman, Courier New and Arial, which are generally pretty good about having characters... — [ R I C ] opiaterein — 14:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

The hyphenation point is missing from my version of those three fonts, but present in Arial Unicode MS. Maybe if you change plain Arial to the latter in your preferences, then it will fall back properly (I'm surprised it doesn't fall back to a font that has the character anyway). —Michael Z. 2009-04-24 15:41 z

(unindent) I don't appear to have that one, so I'm starting to get exasperated :D I guess for now it's not a big problem, I'll try to figure something out at some point. — [ R I C ] opiaterein — 12:48, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought that was one of the basics, but I see it was only bundled with MS Office. Ironically, it now comes in the latest Mac OS, but not Windows. The Mac also has about a dozen fonts which include this character – Maybe you have a way of checking which Windows font has it and set that as your third alternative? This character (and many, many others) are in the free Code2000, DejaVu, or Gentium fonts. These are all potentially useful for Wiktionary anyway.

In Opera 9.62/Mac I have Times set for the default font, but Wiktionary's sans-serif font overrides this, and the page appears to display in Helvetica. The hyphenation point displays, even if I change the default font to Times New Roman.

Is Times New Roman the default font in Opera? Does this affect all Opera/WinXP users, or is it something about your setup? —Michael Z. 2009-04-25 15:46 z

The only default Opera fonts I've changed are the "international fonts", so I dunno... I haven't talked to other Opera/XP users about it, so I'm not sure. — [ R·I·C ] opiaterein — 00:52, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Script template

Does it seem reasonable to allow script templates? I'd imagine it would look like {{{{{sc|Latn}}}|{{{1}}}}}. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:54, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it does. --Daniel 19:56, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Category syllables

I would like to suggest so that this template would automatically add the number of syllable category whenever in use if it is possible. Not all languages here have the automatic syllable counting category. --Tofeiku (talk) 14:20, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Not all languages allow you to determine the number of syllables based on the hyphenation either. This kind of categorisation is currently enabled in Module:hyphenation for French, Spanish, Italian and Portuguese, but it would be incorrect to enable it indiscriminately for all languages. —Rua (mew) 14:27, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Hypenation

The word hyphenation would appear as an internal link in the template, so more user can click to go to the hyphenation definition and know what it is.--BoldLuis (talk) 13:57, 26 April 2020 (UTC)