Module talk:families/data
aus-bub, aus-dal, aus-gun[edit]
Should aus-bub, aus-dal and aus-gun be assigned to the non-genetic family "aus"? If not, what is the point of having the code "aus"? - -sche (discuss) 17:03, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- IMO: no and nothing. I've always strongly disliked
aus; doing away with it couldn't be a bad thing. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 17:28, 16 November 2013 (UTC)- KIll it with fire. Please. And have Category:Australian Aboriginal languages go as well. -- Liliana • 21:26, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- Other non-families (besides aus): nai, sai, qfa-ame(!). - -sche (discuss) 06:21, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
Kwa[edit]
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These seem to be the same family, one template attaching it to Atlantic-Congo, and the other to Niger-Congo. I believe Atlantic-Congo is just the central branch of Niger-Congo, but I'm not sure if that's the complete picture.
Things have changed a lot since I took an African Languages class at UCLA in the 1980s, but I'm having trouble sorting out what the current accepted view is. Wikipedia seems to be talking past itself a lot as far as the higher-level classifications of African languages go, so different articles describe them in several different, semi-inconsistent ways. It's often hard to tell how one organizational scheme relates to another, or even if they're talking about the same things.
At any rate, we need to choose one template, whichever one it is, and it wouldn't hurt to look at the other nic-, alv- and related templates to try and make coherent sense out of them as a whole (if it helps any, the alv-kwa template is far more widely used). Chuck Entz (talk) 00:36, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- Resolved; see WT:RFM#two_family_codes_for_the_Kwa_language_group. - -sche (discuss) 16:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
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The Kwa languages are a subgroup of the Atlantic-Congo languages, which are a subgroup of the Niger-Congo languages. In Module:families, "Kwa" is listed twice: once correctly as alv-kwa (where alv = "Atlantic-Congo") and then a second time as nic-kwa (where nic = "Niger-Congo"). When creating hyphenated exceptional family codes, our practice is to use the nearest ISO-recognised family code as the base, so we should delete nic-kwa and use only alv-kwa. This entails updating Category:Kwa languages and changing the few mentions of nic-kwa in Module:languages. - -sche (discuss) 05:52, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Done - -sche (discuss) 19:59, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- While you're at it, you might as well remove the
{{look}}from #Template:etyl:nic-kwa, Template:etyl:alv-kwa above, which raised the same issue 14 months ago, but got no response. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:47, 16 November 2013 (UTC)- Ah, I hadn't noticed that section. Thanks for bringing the issue up, even if you did go unnoticed. :b You're right that we should look at the other nic- and alv- languages. We need to check our entire family system, really — both to bring it up to date, and to remove duplicate codes. - -sche (discuss) 16:21, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- While you're at it, you might as well remove the
Alacalufan[edit]
Among the families listed is Alacalufan (aqa)... but there's only one Alacalufan language, the language isolate Kawésqar. It seems like there's no reason to have the code aqa, and that Kawésqar could be reclassified as an isolate (qfa-iso); OTOH, having the code isn't doing harm... - -sche (discuss) 03:10, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Tai–Kadai / Kra–Dai[edit]
Moved to Wiktionary:Requests_for_moves,_mergers_and_splits#Tai–Kadai_/_Kra–Dai. DTLHS (talk) 17:42, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Suggest: Korean→Koreanic[edit]
The language family name on the related Wikipedia entry is "Koreanic", no “Korean”. See Japonic, Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic, etc. (I do not have permission to edit this module) 幻光尘 (talk) 06:26, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Sauraseni Prakrit→Shauraseni Prakrit[edit]
Please update the canonical form of this language as indicated above, as this is the proper transliteration for it and is the most common form used everywhere, as well as the name of the linked Wiki article as well. Getsnoopy (talk) 00:40, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Proto-Luwic[edit]
A Proto-Luwic common ancestor for the Luwic languages needs to be added. Antiquistik (talk) 19:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)