Talk:почувствам

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Re-spelling for these cases[edit]

@Chernorizets Do you think this re-spelling of terms to match their common realization makes sense? This word is an exemplar of what I am referring to, and is one word whose spelling I didn't even know contained a „в“ until I saw it written, since I had never heard anyone say it with the /f/ intact. I can also name similar почувствам (počuvstvam), as well as обезсмъртя (obezsmǎrtja) and омбудсман (ombudsman) (which someone had respelled as омбудзман (ombudzman), maybe to resemble their pronunciation; it seemed reasonable to me, but perhaps "non-standard"? In this case I elected to revert to the original spelling.). Should this type of thing be kept as a practice, or should we always just use the default spelling (with any accessory diacritics and syllable breaks)? Kiril kovachev (talkcontribs) 18:30, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Kiril kovachev the approach of Module:bg-pronunciation has been to provide simplification for certain consonant clusters, rather than requiring editors to respell them in every entry that contains them. My preference would be to continue handling that kind of thing in-module, because otherwise we open the gates to anyone adding their own perceived pronunciation to the entries, and letting inconsistencies pile up.
It's important to remember that, as in other languages, Bulgarian has pronunciations prescribed by the language standard, as well as commonly occurring but technically non-standard pronunciations. Macedonian entries, for example, sometimes include common non-standard pronunciations, which is perhaps the only case I can see for respelling. However, to do something like this for Bulgarian entries, ideally I'd expect an editor to:
  • check what the standard pronunciation ought to be, and make sure that it's present in the entry
  • be reasonably sure any other "common" pronunciations are indeed common, and not a feature of the editor's own dialect or region
Chernorizets (talk) 19:46, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Chernorizets That sounds about right to me. In general I was already aligned with this analysis anyway, but I saw a lot of stranger pronunciations today and I felt like asking. Thanks for the quick reply! Since my doubts on these cases are rare enough, if you don't mind, I might ask again for specific words, whenever I doubt whether my perceived "common" pronunciation is actually right, or just my own assumption. Kiril kovachev (talkcontribs) 20:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply