Talk:قات

@Fay Freak: This entry could use some expansion, particularly a source for the etymology and some treatment of other words for this plant (I would especially like to know the etymon of Swahili miraa, the form which points toward Arabic). —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 17:47, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge, Profes.I.: There is little likelihood for such a general word in Egyptian to come to mean such a specific drug but in modern Arabic. For a moment it boded that one could instead derive from Persian, as Gerrit Bos and Fabian Käs and company suggested this for قَتّ (qatt, “lucerne”), but that would be obscure again, apart from the reverse being transmitted, and if you look onto lucerne and qat side by side, and know that words for trefoils like ذُرَق (ḏuraq), حَنْدَقُوق (ḥandaqūq), תִּלְתָּן (tiltā́n), tend to be vague, an internal derivation becomes eyely for both words, and قَتَاد (qatād, “milkvetch”) as a cherry on top, which confirms it all again by its long vowel combined with irregular consonantism. So I had to rebut the published professors and demonstrate the correct derivation. One needed a lot of internals in mind for this etymology. Fay Freak (talk) 19:03, 15 January 2021 (UTC)