Talk:कारंण

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Descendants[edit]

@Bhagadatta, Svartava2 The Old Hindi reference says that the sounds ण and न are in free variation depending on the manuscript/region. In 2017, I removed Marathi माणूस as a descendant of Old Marathi मानुस, and AryamanA reverted with the edit summary:

n/ṇ vary freely in MIA and NIA it seems; e.g Prakrit ṇ always goes to Hindi n

Even if this term shouldn’t considered inherited from Prakrit, should the descendants section be used to show that the term was borrowed into Early NIA and maintained in the modern descendants? Kutchkutch (talk) 03:48, 27 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Kutchkutch: Yeah I guess it can be shown in the descendants. But I do not think it will ever be correct to say that Hindi terms like रोहण (rohaṇ) are anything but borrowed. The free variation in Old Hindi may have been picked up by its other descendants across the Hindi spectrum but if I'm not mistaken, in the Hindustani dialect, which is Wiktionary's definition of Hindi, the ण does not independently occur. -- 𝓑𝓱𝓪𝓰𝓪𝓭𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓪(𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴) 05:49, 27 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
CDIAL marked the term Hindi कारण as inherited. Although Dasa gives कारन as an alt form, the ṇ form is much common. Also, see राणा ~ राना (rāṇā ~ rānā) < राजन (rājana)[1]. Svārtava205:44, 6 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
कच्छकच्छSvārtava205:45, 6 September 2021 (UTC)Reply