Talk:ⲙⲁⲗⲁⲕⲟⲥ

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RFV discussion: July 2021[edit]

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Coptic, RFV-sense of "twink". A very strange definition for a dialect that died out centuries before the emergence of the modern gay scene. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 12:22, 8 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Probably better nonetheless than the ever antiquizing terms borrowed from the Greco-Roman sphere like “catamite”. One just does not need to take all as literally referring to exactly the same modern understanding. For all science facts understanding was cruder. But since μαλακός (malakós) seems “soft, tender” and twink is defined as one “slim … having little body hair” this is a quite nailing translation – teachers honour the fact that the students apply modern language on antique facts, isn’t it. I rather don’t think we can maintain distinctions like between “catamite” and “twink”, the distinction is overly modern then, apart from the fact that the former is putting things closer to Hellene measures than it possible was, which was there before and thus stranger in the literal sense; @ⲁⲡⲟⲗⲗⲟⲇⲱⲣⲟⲥ probably should have glossed it not in a separate gloss. Compare also Ottoman Turkish شوکه (şeveke, twerk). Fay Freak (talk) 15:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

The translation of ⲙⲁⲗⲁⲕⲟⲥ as twink is mostly due to similarities. Although translated to catamite and effeminite, a young, effeminite bottom is basically means twink. So, it is more of a translation to modern terms by similarity than by actual definition. — This unsigned comment was added by ⲁⲡⲟⲗⲗⲟⲇⲱⲣⲟⲥ (talkcontribs).

I cannot say I'm a great fan of anachronistic glosses, but let's merge the two and call it a day. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 08:56, 10 July 2021 (UTC)Reply


RFV resolved, imo. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 09:00, 10 July 2021 (UTC)Reply