Talk:盧
Etymology and cross references[edit]
I'm not sure if I should be posting here on the specific character's discussion page, or elsewhere on Wiktionary, so please forgive, and maybe point me to the exact place these posts ought to go, if not next to the specific word of consideration.
For the Mandarin-Han character here, is there any extra etymological history, to become available, for this character pair, regarding the variants used with (a) a "dotted cliff" and (b) without?
(a)[廬][LÚ] means hut or cottage (3).
(b)[盧][LÚ] means hut or cottage (3).
I have also noted the surname-use character [盧], is used in an english proper name, but do not know how both characters were peculiar-particular selected, of the specific LÚ and KÈ, to represent the surname, as the decision process of etymology is herein-absent, to determine the reason for the specific ideogram roots selection.
[盧,克][LÚ KÈ] means [Luke] (2).
I'm guessing [ [盧],[克] ][ [LÚ],[KÈ] ] reads as [ [hut|cottage] , [overcome|restrain] ] (1), as the most reasonable reading, of this speciic pronounciation of "Luke", but I have no etymological support, of this peculiar interpretation, or if it is even an appropriate definition selection. It could also be a purely a surname-sound-pronounciation-representation, but I have no etymological support of this peculiar interpretation, either, as many [LÚ],[KÈ] could have been chosen besides these two ideograms. I do note that the article refers to [盧][LÚ] as a surname ideogram, in Korean (3), but I am interested in the Chinese-Mandarin-Han interpretation.
Additionally, for English homonym, Mandarin Chinese cross reference, Biblos.com apparently refers to [Lu,ke] as [路,加][LÙ,JIĀ]journey],[increase|augment(1)(4).
Neither form of Luke is shown in the Wikipedia proper name list under Mandarin Chinese, or Japanese.
(1) Abstracted data from Pocket Oxford (Mandarin) Chinese Dictionary.
(2) Verified only on Yahoo:Systran:Babelfish:Chinese Traditional.
(3) Lookup on Wictionary.
(4) Open platform Bible(?) http://cu.holybible.com.cn/luke/1.htm
LoneRubberDragon (talk) 22:42, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
I am informed by a native Cantonese speaker that the pronunciation of this character is Low, that is, Lo, with a long O, and a deep intonation. The Mandarin pronunciation however is right (Lu as in Luis). I don't think that lou (listed as the Cantonese) would normally be pronounced with a long O. Further, this very character is the family name of the native Cantonese speaker who told me this. So perhaps the pronunciation listed on this page can be checked.