Talk:Balatik
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Ysrael214 in topic Balatik
Balatik
[edit]@Ysrael214 Should the definition "Orion" be in Tagalog? I mean, it seems to be Hiligaynon. Mar vin kaiser (talk) 16:22, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Mar vin kaiser I didn't add the Orion definition, it was @Houflings
- I only added the Tres Marias under See also.
- But to answer your question, I think so:
- 1. Balatic is in Vocabulario de la lengua Tagala
- (though it's written here that it's specifically the Orion's Belt instead, probaby because the Spanish have their own asterisms according to source at #3)
- https://books.google.com.ph/books?redir_esc=y&id=PTIOAAAAIAAJ&q=balatic#v=snippet&q=balatic&f=false
- 2. Balatik is written at Customs of the Tagalogs by Juan de Plasencia (though written here as Ursa Major)
- https://www.gutenberg.org/files/13701/13701-h/13701-h.htm
- Just search for "Balatic"
- 3. At Page 6 of BALATIK: Katutubong Bituin ng mga Pilipino, this text said Plasencia was wrong and N&S corrected the constellation at Vocabulario's 1860 edition. Also stated that Tayabas (in Quezon) also has balatik.
- https://journals.upd.edu.ph/index.php/pssr/article/view/1287/1833
- The entry seems to have said it came from Hiligaynon so that's acceptable I think. (which I assume is said at diksyonaryo.ph) And I don't know, I think Balatik refers to Orion (supposedly its star components, not the formation that they make a warrior image) now than just the Orion's belt to simplify things and align with the Greek constellation map
- From Facebook but just to show the constellation imagery
- https://www.facebook.com/eggnebula/photos/a.374845886577853/453916248670816/?type=3 Ysrael214 (talk) 17:15, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Mar vin kaiser Since we're here, where did you get "Balatik" = Sagittarius? Ysrael214 (talk) 17:40, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214: Balatik = Sagittarius is found in Panganiban, but also I think used in Maugnayin? Anyway, thanks for these resources. I'll check all of them and make a comprehensive edit. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 13:23, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Mar vin kaiser I don't have JVP's dictionary but in Maugnayin, Sagittarius is listed as Mamamanà, and Orion is Oryon, ang Mangangaso Ysrael214 (talk) 13:33, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Ysrael214: Balatik = Sagittarius is found in Panganiban, but also I think used in Maugnayin? Anyway, thanks for these resources. I'll check all of them and make a comprehensive edit. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 13:23, 25 September 2022 (UTC)