Talk:New York City

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New York City

New York State

Same as above. This is New York with a qualifier to disambiguate them from each other. —CodeCat 12:24, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

• Keep: "City" or "State" is part of the proper name as indicated by the capitalization. For better context: Geographic names that contain their entity type in the name include Hudson River, Cooper Creek, Lake Ontario, Atlantic Ocean, Adriatic Sea, Chesapeake Bay, Cape Horn, Mount Everest, Longs Peak, Death Valley, Copper Canyon, Red River Gorge, Mexico City, New York City, Cape Town, New York State, Main Street, Grant Avenue, Jack Kerouac Alley, Leicester Square, Piccadilly Circus, and Abbey Road. Some have the form "<noun-phrase-used-attributively> <entity-type>" (e.g. "Death Valley"), while some have the form "<adjective-phrase> <entity-type>" (e.g. "Atlantic Ocean"). --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:03, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
  • The difference is that these two names are never found on maps, whereas the others are. That indicates that they are not part of the proper name, but serve as disambiguation only. —CodeCat 13:58, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Your last statement is just plain wrong. Keep as an American who knows better. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 15:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
• Keep per Μετάknowledge. bd2412 T 18:09, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
• Keep both They are used in parlance Purplebackpack89 ^{(Notes Taken) (Locker)} 18:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Kept. bd2412 T 03:55, 7 September 2013 (UTC)