Talk:New York State

RFD 2012

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Defined as SoP. We don't have Washington State or any of the other half-common combinations. -- Liliana • 18:35, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Hadn't we decided on keeping toponyms? Which of the following are toponyms: State of New York, New York, Empire State, New York State, New York, New York, NY, NYS, NYC; City of New York, Big Apple, Gotham? Which are names of organizations? Do we distinguish? DCDuring TALK 18:50, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Its def doesn't seem right. It ain't The State of New York, unless there is also "The State of Dallas" or "The State of Belo Horizonte". If we are to keep toponyms, this one should be kept also but improved. --biblbroks_{дискашн} 19:08, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

(ec) Not that current def necessarily implies that it is The State of New York City, but one might think of this since New York has the NYC as its first meaning. --biblbroks_{дискашн} 20:23, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

• Keep, and add Washington State: New York and Washington State are special cases. You add the "State" to distinguish NY from New York City, and Washington from Washington, D.C. or George Washington. Purplebackpack89 ^{(Notes Taken) (Locker)} 20:17, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

FYI, I'm creating Washington State, and adding the context for use of New York State 20:17, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Kept. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:52, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

RFD 2013

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New York City

New York State

Same as above. This is New York with a qualifier to disambiguate them from each other. —CodeCat 12:24, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

• Keep: "City" or "State" is part of the proper name as indicated by the capitalization. For better context: Geographic names that contain their entity type in the name include Hudson River, Cooper Creek, Lake Ontario, Atlantic Ocean, Adriatic Sea, Chesapeake Bay, Cape Horn, Mount Everest, Longs Peak, Death Valley, Copper Canyon, Red River Gorge, Mexico City, New York City, Cape Town, New York State, Main Street, Grant Avenue, Jack Kerouac Alley, Leicester Square, Piccadilly Circus, and Abbey Road. Some have the form "<noun-phrase-used-attributively> <entity-type>" (e.g. "Death Valley"), while some have the form "<adjective-phrase> <entity-type>" (e.g. "Atlantic Ocean"). --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:03, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
  • The difference is that these two names are never found on maps, whereas the others are. That indicates that they are not part of the proper name, but serve as disambiguation only. —CodeCat 13:58, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Your last statement is just plain wrong. Keep as an American who knows better. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 15:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
• Keep per Μετάknowledge. bd2412 T 18:09, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
• Keep both They are used in parlance Purplebackpack89 ^{(Notes Taken) (Locker)} 18:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Kept. bd2412 T 03:55, 7 September 2013 (UTC)