Talk:Sophrosyne

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RFV discussion: August–September 2014[edit]

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Rfv-sense "(poetic) humility" for Sophrosyne. --kc_kennylau (talk) 02:09, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Note: Same editor has added similar "poetic" senses to some other Greek gods. Equinox 02:14, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
<sigh> Same editor using a large number of IPs has added vast mountains of crap to a large number of entries on mythology, magic, etc.- not to mention Japanese and Chinese entries in general. I'll see if I can go through their edits from today and get rid of at least some of the nonsense and trivial clutter. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
I don't know about poetic, but there does appear to be a distinction between Sophrosyne the entity and sophrosyne the virtue (which, contra the sense at Sophrosyne, seems to have canonically been "temperance" or "restraint" (although I have also seen a cite contrasting sophrosyne against hubris, in the context of Nietzsche), and is correctly defined at small-s sophrosyne). I would suggest deleting this third sense of Sophrosyne and linking in small-s sophrosyne as a derived term. --Catsidhe (verba, facta) 02:27, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
Actually, the derivation is the other way around: the goddess is named after the virtue. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:52, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
I've just blocked the same lunatic about 10 times in 5 minutes. I suppose there's nothing that can be done about this, by us or Wikimedia? Equinox 02:55, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
We can add a filter for the word "asteroid"... It's the only thing I can think of that might do anything. --WikiTiki89 14:19, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

RFV Failed The sense in question is deleted. Barklestork (talk) 02:23, 29 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

RFV discussion: August–September 2014[edit]

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Rfv of the sense.

The existence of the goddess has been called into question by Barklestork (talkcontribs). The sense was based on the Wikipedia article, which got its information about the goddess from www.theoi.com, which interpreted passages speaking of personified virtues as referring to actual goddesses. Since this is an English entry, the issue of whether a Greek goddess exists is secondary to whether there's any evidence meeting the requirements of WT:CFI that English speakers have used the word with this meaning. Chuck Entz (talk) 15:01, 24 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

RFV failed The sense in question was deleted. Barklestork (talk) 02:19, 29 September 2014 (UTC)Reply