Talk:Victoria Park
Latest comment: 9 months ago by Pious Eterino in topic RFD discussion: November 2022–August 2023
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Rfd-sense "unit of area in Hong Kong". the plural form is definitely attestable (in fact in most cases the only form used), as in google:"Victoria Parks" site:scmp.com, but is this SoP or something similar in some way, such that it should be deleted? – Wpi31 (talk) 09:25, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. This is similar to saying how many ‘football fields’ an area is and I don’t see why we should delete either sense at either entry. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:39, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- The nominator added this sense to the entry, and must have had second thoughts about it. DonnanZ (talk) 09:52, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- It's because some of the Chinese equivalents were nominated for RFD, so I assumed that similarly this one may not satisfy CFI. – Wpi31 (talk) 10:03, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- We should probably keep this one then[1], though I don’t feel qualified to vote on Chinese entries myself. We should also define ‘football pitch’ to be the area of a soccer pitch, IOW a typical 1.76 acres according to Wikipedia (see[2] - this this author works on the basis that a pitch is 1.79 acres if you do the maths) and perhaps also have another sense at ‘football field’ defining the area as 1.76 acres (if such a sense can be attested of course). The current definition at football field is based on the area of an American football field (1.32 acres) --Overlordnat1 (talk) 10:19, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- We know the park exists, we need to verify this sense is used, if any quotations can be found, preferably in English. It's really an RFV matter. If some decent quotes can be added, I would keep this. DonnanZ (talk) 10:30, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Read my first comment, it's definitely attestable. There's like dozens, if not hundreds, of uses in different constructions in SCMP (the local newspaper). – Wpi31 (talk) 11:18, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- PS: My concern is that it would imply any other place names can be used as a unit of area, provided they are attestable (e.g. Wales, as mentioned in https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-46737277). – Wpi31 (talk) 11:31, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- If an article said something was ‘three Waleses in area’ then that might be a concern but I don’t think anyone says that. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 11:37, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- You can add a quote from the South China Morning Post, but independent sources are also needed. DonnanZ (talk) 11:42, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- It's because some of the Chinese equivalents were nominated for RFD, so I assumed that similarly this one may not satisfy CFI. – Wpi31 (talk) 10:03, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- The nominator added this sense to the entry, and must have had second thoughts about it. DonnanZ (talk) 09:52, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Any locally well-known geographical feature can be used for area comparisons, like, in NYC, “the size of three Central Parks”,[3][4] in England, “the size of three London Olympic parks”,[5] and even “the size of four Belgiums, plus Crimea”.[6] Likewise for volume comparisons: “the equivalent of three Lake Eries”.[7] This does not make Lake Erie a “unit of volume in North America”, irrespective of how widespread attestible uses may be. --Lambiam 13:45, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Lambiam. In Melbourne the state government talks about the number of MCGs worth of open space it is creating, etc. We don't need entries for all of these (although it does come back to the old chestnut of plurals of proper nouns - we pretend they don't exist, but they so obviously do). This, that and the other (talk) 07:08, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- RFD failed Pious Eterino (talk) 08:05, 10 August 2023 (UTC)