Talk:bitten
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Drago. Need I say more? -- Prince Kassad 06:42, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes actually. Who or what is Drago? More importantly, where can we find Old High German texts? Furthermore, wouldn't it be bittan not bitten? Mglovesfun (talk) 20:10, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- See [[user talk:Drago]].—msh210℠ 20:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- [1] has quite a lot of OHG texts, however the website is in German. -- Prince Kassad 20:37, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- Bitten is a class 5 strong verb in Old High German, which would normally have the ending -an. However, it belongs to a small class of 'j-presents' which had a -(i)j- suffix before the ending in the present, but not the past. Other verbs of this group include sizzen and (for class 6) swer(i)en, heffen. In Old High German, the infinitive ending -jan changes to -en (occasionally -ien after r), as in the class 1 weak verbs (of which many examples exist). So bitten is the correct form. —CodeCat 21:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed. I own one of the better German etymological dictionaries (Kluge's Etymologisches Wörterbuch der Deutschen Sprache; n.b. the title is in all caps). Under German bitten it gives the "ahd." (Old High German) source word as bitten. --EncycloPetey 03:18, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well that convinces me enough. -- Prince Kassad 12:41, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed. I own one of the better German etymological dictionaries (Kluge's Etymologisches Wörterbuch der Deutschen Sprache; n.b. the title is in all caps). Under German bitten it gives the "ahd." (Old High German) source word as bitten. --EncycloPetey 03:18, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- Bitten is a class 5 strong verb in Old High German, which would normally have the ending -an. However, it belongs to a small class of 'j-presents' which had a -(i)j- suffix before the ending in the present, but not the past. Other verbs of this group include sizzen and (for class 6) swer(i)en, heffen. In Old High German, the infinitive ending -jan changes to -en (occasionally -ien after r), as in the class 1 weak verbs (of which many examples exist). So bitten is the correct form. —CodeCat 21:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- [1] has quite a lot of OHG texts, however the website is in German. -- Prince Kassad 20:37, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- See [[user talk:Drago]].—msh210℠ 20:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)