Talk:concrete

Additional senses

Century has "3. In music, melodically unbroken; without skips or distinct steps in passing from one pitch to another." I haven't found citations. The best citation I can find in the context of 'sound' is this unclear one which is clearly not the musical sense:

• 1900, Alexander Melville Bell, Principles of speech and dictionary of sounds, page 83:

  In colloquial speech, fire, higher, our, power, and all words of this formation are frequently contracted [...] The mouth undergoes but little increase or diminution of vowel aperture in these latter combinations, and consequently they blond with smooth indefiniteness into one concrete utterance. [...] * Dr. Rush [...] says, "It is the concrete function of the voice which alone constitutes a syllable." By the concrete function, however, is meant that tapering quality of all spoken sounds, as distinguished from the even tenor of the sounds of song.

- -sche (discuss) 22:12, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

• I find better wording for the older senses at “concrete”, in The Century Dictionary […], New York, N.Y.: The Century Co., 1911, →OCLC. than in our entry. Also somewhat helpful is Webster 1828, which can be found at “concrete”, in OneLook Dictionary Search.. DCDuring (talk) 00:50, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

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concrete

Rfv-sense "made up of separate parts; composite", listed in OED2 with two quotations (both already added). Unfortunately I wasn't able to find a third. Ioaxxere (talk) 23:27, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure but perhaps this might support the challenged sense. Einstein2 (talk) 00:04, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

I've cited it from a different quotation which I found more unambiguous—the one above could still just about be understood as "solid" because of the references to compression etc., it's an extended definition of "texture" from the one above it about the arrangement of long bodies. In practice it's hard to cleanly distinguish physical "solid" and "composite" senses in 18th-century texts since a lot of the time they're discussing things like chemical compounds which are both. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 10:58, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

RFV Passed Ioaxxere (talk) 17:13, 19 September 2023 (UTC)