Talk:core

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core

Rfv-sense: "A disorder of sheep caused by worms in the liver". I bumped into this when trying to find fi-translations for the different senses of "core". This sense appears in 1913 Webster's, but more recent quotations are hard to find, except in dictionaries, in which the definition is mostly in its original Webster's form: "disorder of sheep occasioned by worms in the liver". The reason for listing this here is that I wasn't able to find the term in books specialized in sheep diseases. Might it be that Webster's has erred, or should this sense be tagged "archaic"? --Hekaheka 08:28, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

All I can find is this cite, in Lisle's Animal Husbandry (which uses a noun core referring to the disease, as well as an intransitive verb core meaning "to contract core", and an adjective or participle cored meaning roughly "having core"). A number of dictionaries refer to that cite, and I wonder if that's also the ultimate source of Webster's listing. —Ruakh_TALK 18:46, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

The OED has four citations, but I can't find the original source for the first one online, and the rest appear to be from dictionaries. Maybe there are alternate spellings that we aren't seeing. Nadando 19:03, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Might the disease be currently known as Fasciola hepatica or "common liver fluke"? The symptoms (anemia and oedema under tongue) described in Wikipedia and in "Animal husbandry" seem to match. Liver fluke is a common disease in sheep, and so appears core to be according to Lisle. --Hekaheka 20:31, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

The original for the OED's first cite is here. I take its sense to be (as the OED puts it) "a tumor characteristic of" core. —Ruakh_TALK 22:22, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

A rather fascinating candidate for Appendix:English dictionary-only terms. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:26, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

RFV-failed, citation moved to the citations page. - -sche (discuss) 05:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

RFV discussion: October 2020–February 2021

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core

Core as used in botany appears to me an English word. It needs proper uses in a couple other languages proving it is not. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 13:46, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

The Translingual-ness of the derived terms is questionable, too; I looked for German or French hits for the three ones we have entries on and only found a single occurrence of one, in French, in quotation marks:

• 2016, Thierry Lefevre, Michel Raymond, Frédéric Thomas, Biologie évolutive, De Boeck Superieur (→ISBN), page 439:

  Suite aux évènements de duplication incessants, divers groupes, même au sein des « core eudicots », ont des jeux de gènes différents et ont pu découpler les fonctions initiales de diverses manières.

One is already at RFD: Wiktionary:Requests_for_deletion/Non-English#core_Caryophyllales. - -sche (discuss) 21:01, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

RFV failed. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 14:21, 5 February 2021 (UTC)