Talk:dehydratovat

Perfective and imperfective

IMHO it is both perfective and imperfective, what should I write to the {{cs-verb}} template? Istafe (talk) 19:34, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

You can make separate sections, each with different conjugation. For example:

===Verb===
{{cs-verb|a=i}}

# to [[dehydrate]]

====Conjugation====
conjugation 1

===Verb===
{{cs-verb|a=p}}

# to [[dehydrate]]

====Conjugation====
conjugation 2

Maro 20:41, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Istafe (talk) 18:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It is no good idea to duplicate translations and their glosses only because a verb is both perfective and imperfective, especially given the conjugation is the same. At some point, {{cs-verb}} can be adjusted to enable having both perfective and imperfective on the headword line. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:08, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

I cannot agree. If the verb is really perfective and imperfective, the conjugation can't be the same - perfective verbs don't have present tense forms. But if the verb is perfective and imperfective - there should be separate sections for both. Maro 01:04, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

It would first need to be clear what it is for "dehydratovat" to be not only imperfective but also perfective. Upon the first impression, "dehydratovat" looks like an imperfective form to me, in its inflected forms "dehydratuje" (attested) and "dehydratoval" (almost attested). What could lead to the hypothesis that "dehydratovat" serves as both imperfective and perfective is that its synonyms or near-synonyms show distinct forms for perfective and imperfective, while no two distinct forms are seen in "dehydratovat": there is "odvodnit" and "odvodňovat", and "vysušit" and "vysoušet". In any case, I see no two sets of conjugated forms to be entered. As an auxiliary check, http://prirucka.ujc.cas.cz/?slovo=dehydratovat shows only one set of conjugated forms, not two sets.

Given you do not speak any Czech per your Babel, your intuitions about verbs that are both perfective and imperfective probably stem from Polish. If you have an example of a Polish term that is both perfective and imperfective and needs two conjugation tables, that would help make the discussion specific and clearer. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:44, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

I know only one such verb - aresztować. Although many forms are the same, like past tense, there are also forms which occur in only one aspect - anterior adverbial participle (aresztowawszy) can be found only in a perfective aspect; present adverbial participle (aresztując) can be found only in an imperfective aspect. Maro 13:47, 15 April 2012 (UTC)