Talk:dormie

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"Dormie" en français[edit]

Could you give me an example in French where "dormie" is used. Here are some explanations: the present participle can have a feminine inflection only if the verb is transitive, i.e., admits a direct object complement. This is not the case for "dormir" which is intransitive and therefore does not accept a feminine inflection. Likewise "plaire", "marcher" and "trotter" are intransitive are there are no form "plue", "marchée" and "trottée". In France, we learn this in the 4th grade. This mistake worries me, because kids may use the wiktionary for assignment.
P. S. The wiktionary is a very cool part of wiki. First, you receive a notification that welcomes you for your first edit and then your contribution, despite it is correct, is immediately reverted, without discussion. On the French wikipedia the etiquette is to be gentle with newcomers. --PIerre.Lescanne (talk) 17:59, 24 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

@PIerre.Lescanne: Sorry if the revert seems rude, but you can't just delete content, even if you're certain it is wrong. I think the French Wikipedia community would react in a similar way if you deleted some of their pages. Your grammatical reasoning is correct but wikt:fr:dormie claims it exists as a rare form. Ideally we should try to find some citations to back this up. Unfortunately there are none on Wiktionnaire. – Jberkel 21:06, 24 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
It is not way a dictionary works. The presence of a citation shows that of form is correct. Therefore a form should not occur in the wiktionary until a citation attests that it is correct. I found one from Émile Zola. --PIerre.Lescanne (talk) 06:21, 25 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
"it is not a way a dictionary works": In practice citations are not always added to every single entry. In cases where the validity is disputed (like this one) they are required however. There is a whole formal process around this (see Wiktionary:Requests_for_verification/Non-English). – Jberkel 07:16, 25 June 2019 (UTC)Reply