Talk:fannulla

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Italian fannulla

(Notifying GianWiki, Metaknowledge, SemperBlotto, Ultimateria, Jberkel, Imetsia, Sartma): Created by User:Angelucci in 2019. Supposedly means "loafer, idler, good-for-nothing". Not in any dicionaries and has very few hits; the first few are to Wiktionary itself and mirrors, and others are based off of fannullone, which appears to be the actual word for this concept. Benwing2 (talk) 07:46, 14 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Treccani says "fannullone [accr. di un disus. fannulla]" so maybe it's just obsolete. There are some 19th century hits on GB. –Jberkel 12:01, 14 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Google Books has several hits for "un fannulla" [1] and a couple for "i fannulla" [2], all from old books. I think it passes a basic check. My favorite is the one from the book "Sopra la questione italiana" by Catinelli (not listed in the previous searches because it uses fannulla as a descriptive noun rather than with an article), where he talks about how under democracy the princes would be reduced to "principi fannulla". 70.175.192.217 19:11, 16 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
It's a good word, why did it fall out of use? So much better (and a syllable shorter) than fannullone. – Jberkel 14:44, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps the cycle of weakening by overuse diminished it so much that the augmentative suffix was required to restore its former glory. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:05, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
I may be too eager to say 'fannulla' is not archaic or obsolete. On the contrary it is quite common. I think the question is not the frequency.
The answer to the question, have I or any native speaker ever used the term is most likely a yes.
Try to say fa + nulla, literally “does nothing”
(more frequent form to say the same the same thing) it'd come out as fannulla.
Most unlikely the words “does and nothing” will be obsolete anytime soon.
Please don't delete it.
Flāvidus (talk) 18:57, 31 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Cited, with one fanulla that I believe is still the same word. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 14:04, 26 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

RFV-passed. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:46, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply