Talk:fedora
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Rfv-sense: "(Internet slang, derogatory) A self-important or obnoxious pseudointellectual."
I've tried to find attestation on Google groups (UseNet portion), but it is hard to exclude all the hits for the Fedora software. I don't know what positive collocations would generate hits for the sense above. (OTOH, neckbeard looks attestable in more-or-less the sense in the entry.) DCDuring (talk) 17:50, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- I tried searching for it on Groups and Books together with other words like "neckbeard(s)", "MRA(s)", "angry", "misogynistic", "gross", and "m'lady". I only found a few books which, although clearly using it to refer to hats worn by such people, were still using it to mean the hats, not the people. - -sche (discuss) 18:47, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Sigehelmus as the adder, perhaps they know of some usage. Wouldn't shock me if this was used as a meronym, but I have never seen such. - TheDaveRoss 18:54, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- FWIW, I have seen this, just not anywhere durable: search twitter for "of fedoras who" for some examples. (That phrase nets nothing on Google Groups or Books, sadly, and "fedoras who" nets only chaff.) - -sche (discuss) 20:04, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- I don't doubt that it is used, given that at least three veteran contributors have fairly specific views on its meaning, but terms not in other dictionaries really need some attestation. We can't just favor terms from whatever subcultures we may be part of. DCDuring (talk) 20:37, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- FWIW, I have seen this, just not anywhere durable: search twitter for "of fedoras who" for some examples. (That phrase nets nothing on Google Groups or Books, sadly, and "fedoras who" nets only chaff.) - -sche (discuss) 20:04, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- All I've been able to find: page 6. page 10 (mention). I don't think the definition is quite right though, in my experience a "fedora" is an obnoxious, typically misogynist, male new atheist, brony or MRA (maybe a PUA or incel). Being a pseudointellectual would be relatively accidental to that, some don't seem to wear it to look intellectual but simply to look like a manly movie star.
←₰-→Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 11:13, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- In addition to the one quote I added to the entry, all I can find is on non-durably archived sources such as this - although, given that the comment was written in March 2016, it has clearly lasted quite a while. Kiwima (talk) 20:32, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- RFV-failed. At the time of its removal, the definition had been reworded to the following, with the following citation and etymology:
{{lb|en|Internet slang|pejorative}}A self-important or obnoxious poseur. (Compare neckbeard.)- Internet slang sense: from the stereotype that such people wear this kind of hat.
- 1998 August 29, Burk A. Zoid, “What kind of creatures and locations should be in RE3 ?”, in alt.games.resident-evil (Usenet):
- And zombies with hockey masks, chainsaws, butcher knives, and fedoras that call you on the phone with pop quizes about horror movies.
- - -sche (discuss) 07:14, 23 February 2020 (UTC)