Talk:get a rise out of

take a rise out of

Possibly an obsolete alternative form. Given in John Camden Hotten's Slang Dictionary (1873): "to take a rise out of a person: A metaphor from fly-fishing, the silly fish rising to be caught by an artificial fly; to mortify, outwit, or cheat him, by superior cunning." Equinox ◑ 06:11, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

getting rises (plural)

Again from Hotten (1873), quoting Hints to Freshmen, Oxford, 1843: "There is only one thing, unfortunately, of which Oxford men are economical, and that is, their University experience. They not only think it fair that Freshmen should go through their ordeal unaided, but many have a sweet satisfaction in their distresses, and even busy themselves in obtaining elevations, or, as it is vulgarly termed, in 'getting rises out of them.'" Equinox ◑ 06:11, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

RFD discussion: December 2021–July 2023

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get a rise out of, get a rise, get a rise from

? Hardly give rise to though, in spite of rise having sufficient definitions. This idiomaticity stuff is complicated. Reminds me of Wiktionary:Requests for deletion/Non-English#SOPs in Category:Hindi compound verbs with base verb करना, and the endless entries with Persian كَردَن (kardan) (→ what links there)– if even that is kept, how to proceed with all that?

You forgot to add these to Category:English light verb constructions, meseems. Fay Freak (talk) 21:38, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Delete, SOP with "rise" sense 8 (just updated by me). Facts707 (talk) 09:09, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

• Are we sure this sense of rise is used outside get a rise? We do not have any usexes or quotations to suggest so. - excarnateSojourner (talk | contrib) 05:59, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
• A proposed resolution:
  1. Either delete get a rise or make it a hard redirect and also remove it as alternative form.
  2. Make get a rise from a synonym of get a rise out of
  3. Put give rise to under See also header.
  4. Optionally, link rise in inflection line to appropriate definition of rise.

  DCDuring (talk) 16:49, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Keep get a rise with notes about the prepositions usually used with it; make the other two hard redirects. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 17:07, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

• Keep exactly as Andrew suggests on the basis that rise does not have this meaning outside of get a rise. — excarnateSojourner (talk · contrib) 20:46, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

{{look|nocat=1}} I am not seeing a consensus for deletion here. Absent a clear consensus, I will close this accordingly within the next few days. bd2412 T 03:10, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

No consensus to delete. bd2412 T 04:13, 31 July 2023 (UTC)