Talk:goldie

Oldies-goldies

These are rather citations of 'oldies-goldies' (removed from this entry):

- -sche (discuss) 19:16, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

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goldie

"That which is golden". Might be fine but seems very broad. Is a golden coin like a sovereign a goldie? How is this used? Equinox ◑ 22:26, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

@Equinox: There's a fair amount to be had for the phrase "oldies goldies", for example. Purplebackpack89 01:30, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

I have tweaked the definition slightly to reflect the two citations (both to oldies goldies) refer to something being as "good as gold" or golden (old) in vintage, rather than to (literally) being made of gold. Purplebackpack89 01:59, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

How do you know your citations aren't the plural of goldy? DTLHS (talk) 02:02, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

@DTLHS Because goldy is an adjective, not a noun. Also because oldies is the plural of oldie, not oldy. Purplebackpack89 02:04, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

If it only occurs in the phrase "oldies goldies", and we can't attest "goldie" on its own, then we should probably delete this, but give "oldies goldies" its own entry (like golden oldie). Equinox ◑ 03:06, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

If it only occurs in the phrase "oldies goldies", you'd have to delete the other three definitions at goldie. Or else consolidate them into the definition under discussion, which is general enough to describe each of them anyway. I firmly believe that the general sense should be kept. Purplebackpack89 04:00, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

The phrase "oldies are goldies" also exists. Chuck Entz (talk) 19:48, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

It seems to be used quite often when describing various fish (not always goldfish) (google books: "goldies" "fish"). DTLHS (talk) 04:45, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

• I was wondering how to present greenie. It is a word that I have used with my fellow park users to refer to the small green seeds of a plant called jumpseed. But attestation of such a narrow sense doesn't seem likely. I hope that a generic sense will be attestable. Wiktionary would not suffer much from delay in adding such an entry. DCDuring TALK 11:03, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Are they green? Then if nothing else, "a small green object" covers them. but perhaps more specific (sub)senses are attested. I can find one use of "greenies" to refer to green songbirds, and one use to refer to "potherbs", and "The green bug you have been reading about is no relation whatever to the greenies who flutter about the bucketshops." - -sche (discuss) 18:28, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
    • I think rather than having perhaps a dozen specific cases of "greenie" (or of "goldie"), a general "animal or object that is green" (or gold) would be the route to go. Purplebackpack89 18:50, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

I think it would be better to define this as a nickname for something that's golden or that has "gold" in its name. Attested specific cases could be made into subsenses. Chuck Entz (talk) 19:43, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Bird senses

I've gone through dozens of quotes for Goldie and few, if any of them, seem to explictly refer to the plover or the eagle. Most of them refer to a scientist named Goldie or to dogs or birds named Goldie. Purplebackpack89 04:18, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Cited both senses. DTLHS (talk) 04:33, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

All challenged senses have been cited, so I think this passes. - -sche (discuss) 19:21, 30 April 2017 (UTC)