Talk:grafting tool

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grafting tool

"A tool used in grafting" --Type56op9 (talk) 15:39, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Grafting what? Trees? Is it a horticultural tool? Donnanz (talk) 16:32, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

It's not a specific tool, it's any tool used for grafting. Renard Migrant (talk) 18:38, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Convert to {{&lit}}. — Ungoliant ^(falai) 18:51, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. — Keφr 12:06, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Almost deserves an RFV: do people talking about "grafting tools" when they aren't the specific sense #2? Equinox ◑ 22:24, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Delete "[verb]ing tool" is just a standard way to construct an NP that refers to a 'tool for/used in [verb]ing.'. It's really a special case of "[noun] tool" ('a tool used for [noun]').

Or maybe we should create a special L2 for these: let's call it Mentalese. It can include all the non-idiomatic translation targets that anyone can think of. Even better why not create a separate Wiki for it: WikiConcept? Its CFI need not be limited to words and phrases. DCDuring TALK 08:02, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Have you tried w:? They have managed to eschew any CFI whatsoever. — Keφr 12:06, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

They are conceptual and they have notability as a criterion. Language has many non-notable words. DCDuring TALK 07:32, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Funny, I would rather RFV the second sense. — Keφr 12:06, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

That would be a good RfV. DCDuring TALK 07:32, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

But here are some Google Books hits for the tool sense. I think I own a tool like this, though perhaps not as strong. Mine is a long-bladed shovel used for digging narrow trenches. Also the sense of graft/grafting ("dig"), which [[graft]] lacks, is a different etymology from the sense relating to woody plants. DCDuring TALK 08:03, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

I have revised the entry and also [[graft]] to distinguish 2-3 distinct etymologies. DCDuring TALK 08:44, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

• Keep; don't convert to &lit. This is too intransparent. Is it for verb graft sense "(transitive) To insert (a graft) in a branch or stem of another tree; to propagate by insertion in another stock; also, to insert a graft upon."? Dicts that have this: MWO[1], where it says "This word doesn't usually appear in our free dictionary, but the definition from our premium Unabridged Dictionary is offered here on a limited basis."; Webster 1913[2][3]. Some images would be nice. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:42, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

No consensus to delete. bd2412 T 01:38, 13 January 2015 (UTC)