Talk:lad

Etymology

Middle English LADDE, stands on its own, unless indirectly linked with Old English LĒOD[4] (person, man), More at leod for comparison only, that is Germanic[3]. Andrew H. Gray 18:29, 20 October 2015 (UTC) Andrew (talk) Also, compare Newne's New English dictionary etymology. Apart from that of alley, egg, peat, loop, crease, dog, grove, latter clause of fun and (purple, comet and rock which miss out the Old English form) and possibly a few others - including plug that cannot be from Celtic[1], nor block[2], nor pudding[2], likewise, except ultimately through Germanic[3] - and put[3] (if Welsh pwtio (“put”) be borrowed) are also incorrect, Newne's dictionary etymologies are pretty reliable, although they are sometimes presented from a different path angle. Andrew H. Gray 13:29, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Any connection with 'hosen' et cetera is simply nonsense. Andrew H. Gray 07:27, 25 June 2021 (UTC) Andrew (talk

[0] means 'Absolutely not; [1] means 'Exceedingly unlikely'; [2] means 'Very dubious'; [3] means 'Questionable'; [4] means 'Possible'; [5] means 'Probable'; [6] means 'Likely'; [7] means 'Most Likely' or *Unattested; [8] means 'Attested'; [9] means 'Obvious' - only used for close matches within the same language or dialect, at linkable periods. 

Deletion: Andrew H. Gray 22:43, 29 November 2017 (UTC)Andrew (talk)

(unstressed, sometimes) (rare) IPA(key): /ləd/

Hi, since it's a content word, this unstressed or reduced form seems weird. Could sb. add a reference of it? Thanks in advance. --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:13, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

"Lad" Just Means "Friend"

Please update this page: < https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lad >.

"Lad" just means "friend." It is also used for women and old folks.

It doesn't always mean "young boy."

The definition here is accurate: < https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/lads#English >.

Best Wishes,

184.22.230.63 09:30, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Lad is surely from the Arabic "Walad" or Hebrew "Yeled" for a boy or young man 2A02:14C:89DF:FF99:8D13:5671:120:4BBF 16:15, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

That connection of which I have long been aware may be very tempting; but there is no way that LAD would have been borrowed from a Semitic stock, although YALADh (to bring forth, bear) may well be its stock root. However, unless lexemes in the oldest British languages can be proved to be its cognates and also substrates, such additions on the main entry page have to be reverted - I had to learn that before becoming a competent etymologist. Four features are required before posting etymologies on the main entry page: 1/ They need to be sourceable from a reliable dictionary to carry a layman's confidence; 2/ the etymological paths within the same family branch should be apparent by reliable cognates that are not borrowed; 3/ etymological logic must be demonstrated or else it becomes etymological chaff or worthless; 4/ etymologies need to be formatted equivalently to those already on the main entry page - accessed via the edit button. In this case there is no evidence of an Anglo-Saxon form, unless lost in Old English and therefore LAD must have been borrowed in Early English from some European language or else, retained verbally only. Never delete any main entry details without a clearly presented justified reason. Administrators have not the time to explain their reasons for reverting, but have to protect the site where the above rules are flouted. For more details, please see the main etymology regulations on the user page of Werdna Yrneh Yarg. Kind regards. Andrew H. Gray 08:05, 8 May 2023 (UTC) [[Werdna Yrneh Yarg]]. Andrew H. Gray 08:05, 8 May 2023 (UTC)