Talk:monoseme

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sense 3: "an underlying meaning"[edit]

Some technical definitions in the literature:

  • "a potential word-combining pattern whose textual identification is performed on the basis of distinctive linguistic (descriptive) features"
  • "a lexical item with a univocal meaning which will inevitably be modified in context by a process of inferential enrichment of the encoded lexical meaning"
  • "minimum linguistic semantic and semasiological units" (but distinguished from sememe, which is "a derivative of some general meaning inherent in a word")

I think the general idea is that a monoseme in this sense is a(n item representing a) fundamental, lexical meaning, out of which other senses develop, but if anyone can parse these any better feel free to update the definition. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 16:32, 5 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

RFV discussion: November 2022–January 2023[edit]

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English. Request for attestation of this term as an English adjective synonymous with monosemic. See also Wiktionary:Tea_room/2022/November#monosemic,_monosemous. Voltaigne (talk) 17:04, 20 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Cited, barely (and tagged as rare), but this word looks much more commonly used as a noun in both a semantic and a prosodic sense. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 18:15, 20 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

RFV-passed I guess, but Al-Muqanna you really should add that noun sense (those noun senses?) you found. This, that and the other (talk) 13:19, 26 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

@This, that and the other: I've added the (three) noun senses with citations for each. The one thing I'm hesitant about is sense 3, which is kind of opaque to me, though hopefully there are enough citations that the gloss can be improved by someone who knows the field. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 18:28, 3 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Only the 2007 cite for the adjective is unambiguously supportive of an Adjective PoS, the other two being easily interpreted as attributive use of a noun sense. If the headword is not very frequent, it is unlikely we would find unambiguous adjective usage (eg, superlative, comparative, graded, or predicative). DCDuring (talk) 18:50, 3 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
@DCDuring: That's fair, I added two more predicative uses at Citations:monoseme for the full 3, though it is getting into pretty deep cuts at this point. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 00:04, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
They look good, but why not in principal namespace? DCDuring (talk) 00:24, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply