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Earliest Usenet uses via Google Groups (for the linguistics term)

  • mora: soc.culture.japan - Jun 6 1989, 4:48 pm by David Gast
    I always[sic] that a 3 mora name with the last mora "o" is a male name.
  • moras: sci.lang.japan - Jul 16 1990, 8:44 pm by David A. Johns
    Jorden's transcription, with its double vowels, represents moras just as accurately as kana does -- in fact better, since it represents tya as one mora rather than two.
  • moraic: sci.lang.japan - Jun 24 1991, 3:27 pm by Gerald B. Mathias
    No such word-distinguishing drop in pitch occurs at the end of a long vowel or after a "syllabic" (= moraic) n, although one is free to stress those locations, as in "doO-to ittandayo, doU-de nakute..."
  • morae (list context): sci.lang.japan - Jul 7 1992, 12:35 pm by Claude Huss
  • morae: sci.lang.japan - Jul 7 1992, 10:35 am by Stavros Macrakis
    Actually, Japanese has about 50 morae (kana), but more like 20-25 phonemes (depending on definitions).
  • moraically: humanities.classics - Aug 31 2001, 6:16 pm by Rich Alderson
    To bring this to a Classical context, the Latin accent is assigned moraically (drop the last syllable and accent the second mora from what's left), but as a stress accent affects the entire syllable.
  • moraiclly: rec.climbing - Oct 22 2001, 10:33 pm by Shilajit T Gangulee
    The whole 5-7-5 shit is grade-school crap. Haiku metric stress is counted moraiclly, not by syllables.
  • moraicly: rec.climbing - Oct 23 2001, 10:03 am by Mike Yukish
    His was a spelling mistake. It should be "moraicly"

Hippietrail 14:04, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

RFV[edit]

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Rfv-sense: as a Spanish noun meaning “mole” (in the sense of “dark spot on the skin”). The second-oldest tagged RFV, but seemingly never listed. —RuakhTALK 20:53, 1 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sense added by Nadando (very experienced Spanish editor) tagged by Hippietrail (not so experienced). I'll bet it's valid. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:50, 1 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
I've added two citations. In retrospect, both could possibly mean 'mulberry'. It says in the form of a [] so I suppose cells in the form of a mole is more likely, but in the form of a mulberry is not impossible either. Mglovesfun (talk) 00:07, 2 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Nope, sorry, both are mulberries. One is describing Mott cells, which in English are also called "morular cells" because they look like mulberries, and the other is translating an English text with the word "mulberry". BTW, is it supposed to be common knowledge what mulberries look like? Because I had no idea until I checked Wikipedia just now. —RuakhTALK 03:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Wish I knew where I got "mole" from... I can't find anything that related to skin that isn't "looks like a mulberry" or equivalent. Nadando 23:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
I can't find anything, either. google books:"tenía un lunar" and "un lunar en" and "un lunar sobre" get plenty of relevant hits, but google books:"tenía una mora" and "una mora en" and "una mora sobre" don't seem to get any. (But admittedly, my Spanish is not great, and it takes me some effort to scan the page looking for hits in a desired sense. It's quite possible that I missed some.) —RuakhTALK 01:04, 4 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Not in Spanish Wiktionary. DAVilla 09:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
RFV-failed, but "forma de mora" quotations kept. - -sche (discuss) 08:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)Reply