Talk:myself

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English example[edit]

  1. Me (as the object of a verb or preposition)
    • 1994, Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom, Abacus 2010, p. 36:
      Later I realized that the ignorant man that day was not the chief but myself.

Example and definition don't seem to fit. Isn't it "myself" in the sense of "me" in the sense of "I", or for short just "I"? In the sentence, myself is neither object of a preposition (but here is a conjunction) nor of a verb (it's neither an object of realized nor of copula was).
It's well known, that English have problems with cases, compare "It was me" (common grammatically incorrect English) vs. "It was I" (grammatically correct English but because of the correctness considered "formal"). The grammatical incorrectness becomes obvious when comparing it to German, which has proper cases: "Es war den Bauern [acc.]" or "Es war dem Bauern [dat.]" (both uncommon and incorrect) vs. "Es war der Bauer [nom.]" (correct), or "Ich erkannte, daß der Ignorant nicht der Koch sondern mich [acc.] or mir [dat.] war" (uncommon and incorrect) vs. "Ich erkannte, daß der Ignorant nicht der Koch sondern ich [nom.] war" (correct).
Is the definition wrong or the example misplaced? Which of the following does exist or not exist?

  1. me (as the object of a verb or preposition)
  2. I [in the predicate?]
    • 1994, Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom, Abacus 2010, p. 36:
      Later I realized that the ignorant man that day was not the chief but myself.

-84.161.14.134 07:09, 7 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Sense 2 example phrase wanted[edit]

If I understand it correctly something like this would work:

  1. Personally, I think that …
    (from sense 3 in personally)

but I never heard this form before:

  1. Myself, I think that …

Would any of these work? E.g.

  1. For myself, I would have writ more on this subject, but that I was afeared, if I did overmuch belaud these parts of the person.

Or maybe this one:

  1. I, myself, am responsible for the company's success.
    --So9q (talk) 18:02, 15 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

used to add emphasis to the pronouns I or me[edit]

They took me myself prisoner https://www.wordreference.com/definition/myself --Backinstadiums (talk) 10:05, 24 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Pronunciation[edit]

In BrE mɪ-, mə- are on the whole restricted to very casual or non-standard speech. Backinstadiums (talk) 18:26, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Reply