Talk:oyan
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This was added by User:DCDuring. I have since put three citations on the citations page.--Simplificationalizer (talk) 01:06, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- The history says Simplificationalizer added the entry. The 2022 cite is for Central African oyan. DCDuring (talk) 20:57, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- So? If WP is to be believed, oyan is nothing more than a synonym for linsang in the context of the Poiana genus. This, that and the other (talk) 06:05, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Users treat Central African oyan as an idiomatic expression, not Central + African + oyan. The instances of oyan being called the same in meaning as linsang are (almost?) always mentions rather than uses. A large portion of similar non-English words applied to organisms don't seem to be truly incorporated into English. At best they need some kind of label to indicate the usage context, eg,
{{lb|en|zoology}}, even if it is "popular" zoology. DCDuring (talk) 14:51, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Users treat Central African oyan as an idiomatic expression, not Central + African + oyan. The instances of oyan being called the same in meaning as linsang are (almost?) always mentions rather than uses. A large portion of similar non-English words applied to organisms don't seem to be truly incorporated into English. At best they need some kind of label to indicate the usage context, eg,
- So? If WP is to be believed, oyan is nothing more than a synonym for linsang in the context of the Poiana genus. This, that and the other (talk) 06:05, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Cited. I added more cites. If we discount cites of longer strings like Central African oyan, and even cites that could possibly be ellipses of longer strings (like "African linsangs, or oyans" could be argued to be an ellipsis of "African linsangs, or African oyans"; compare "pomerine and parasitic jaegers" obviously meaning "pomerine jaegers and parasitic jaegers"), we still have enough cites of oyan by itself that it is cited via the 2005 Nowak book ("The oyan is a forest animal […] Although the oyan has been [...]"), 2010 Goswami book ("similarities between the linsangs and oyans were [...]"), and 2020 Byghan ("the civet, the genet, the binturong, the linsang and the oyan"). - -sche (discuss) 07:12, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- So passed, yes? - -sche (discuss) 06:04, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Excellent work here. RFV-passed. This, that and the other (talk) 22:44, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- So passed, yes? - -sche (discuss) 06:04, 7 January 2024 (UTC)