Talk:palatinus

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Macron[edit]

@Metaknowledge, JohnC5, I'm so meta even this acronym, is the vowel length information correct? My gut tells me it should be palātīnus. — Ungoliant (falai) 18:03, 29 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

The headwords of the inflected forms also need to be updated. — Ungoliant (falai) 18:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
Corrēctiōnēs quās quaerēbās cōnfēcī. —JohnC5 20:09, 29 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. And this, kids, is why adding automatic pronunciations to every Latin entry by bot was a bad idea. — Ungoliant (falai) 03:55, 30 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Palatinatus[edit]

It defiitely seems that palatinatus was a medieval Latin word for geographical and feudal affiliation for a piece of teritory at least in Britain, Germany, and Poland/Lituania. Wikipedia refers mainly Palatinate to the one in Germany) (but see disambiguation page there - refers to Hungary and Greece too). I found several palatinatus (pl.) on the map Magni Dvcatvs Litvaniae in svos Palatinatvs et Districtvs Divisvs (by Jan Nieprzecki from 1749, publisher Homann, Johann Baptist, 1663-1724),[1] which is multilingual (Text on map in Latin, names I suppose Polish, comment on top probably from printer or publisher in French). From there I see palatinatus in this context is equivalent to woiewodztwo (duchy), and districtus probably related to powiatus (in Latin text, powiat in names on the map). Also principatus was mentioned in text, which could mean land was given in trustand use to a prince (usualy descemdant of a king, or Grand Duke in this case, but is probably more complicated, because of multiple meanings of princeps).

From my (ancient - 1960-1970ies, and later not directly used) linguistic training I see probable etim. sequences palatus, palatinus, palatinatus, and for districtus stringo (keep together), distringo or destringo (separate, also remove string from a bow, remove arrow from a string on a bow without shooting...).

I'd like to see this about palatinates made clear (etimologicaly, historicaly and geographicaly, probably part here and part in WP).