Talk:pang-

Tagalog usage note

@Houflings, Mar vin kaiser, Mlgc1998 The usage note regarding the ordinal-forming prefix fooled me, resulting to the mistake entry for the Tagalog of “vice president" with a native derivation, ikalawang pangulo, where the standard word is rather pangalawang pangulo (using the ordinal pangalawa, which is pang-+dalawa). Is this really informal or just perceived as such? -TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 17:21, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

@TagaSanPedroAko: This is my take. Technically, both can be used for ordinal numbers, so practically, pangalawa is the same thing as ikalawa, but the two prefixes have slightly differing connotations. The prefix "ika-" is really the ordinal prefix, but the main meaning of the prefix "pang-" is really "used for X", so "pangalawa" is literally "used for 2", so in English that would be "no. 2". So we can think of "ikalawa" as "second" in English, and "pangalawa" as "no. 2" in English. I guess that's the only reason why "ikalawang pangulo" cannot mean "vice president", because "ika-" can only have an ordinal meaning. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 11:02, 13 November 2021 (UTC)