Talk:santan

Chinese Etymology

@Wiktionarian89 I was wondering where you got the Chinese etymology for the Tagalog and Cebuano word for a kind of flower. Thanks! --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 15:09, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser By looking at the Malay word which is listed in SEALang Loanwords in Indonesian and Malay as a borrowing from Chinese 仙丹 (xiāndān), the Tagalog and Cebuano word could possibly be derived from the alternative Chinese name. Wiktionarian89 (talk) 01:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

@Wiktionarian89: I see. So you're saying that, because the Malay/Indonesian word "siantan" is listed with the Hokkien etymology of 仙丹 (xiāndān), it's possible that a similar etymology could be for "santan", in this case 山丹 (shāndān). Some issues I have with this:

1. There's no explicit mention of it in any source relating a Chinese etymology to "santan" in any Philippine language, as far as I can see.
2. The pronunciation in Hokkien seems to be soaⁿ-tan, not san-tan.

I think there may be a relation between 山丹 with the word "santan", but I'll edit it to express the lack of certainty on the etymology. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 10:54, 28 May 2022 (UTC)