Talk:secede

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Latest comment: 16 years ago by Rexparry sydney in topic Application to non-federal political entities
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Application to non-federal political entities[edit]

I amended the definition and removed the following note from the usage, because other dictionaries such as Oxford refer only to withdrawal from a 'political body', not a federation. The note is also contradicted by a Google search which provides ample evidence of usage in the UK of 'secede' for the potential splitting of Scotland (and even England for that matter) from the UK, such as the quotation provided. Besides which, if Americans use 'secede' to mean splitting any territory from any nation, there is no reason for Wikitionary not to follow that usage. Note deleted:

"The term secede is sometimes incorrectly used by American speakers to refer to a declaration of independence by a territory that forms part of a unitary state. If Corsica declares independence from France, or Scotland from the United Kingdom, then this is not secession because constitutionally France and the UK are unitary states, not federal states. If Texas gains independence from the US, on the other hand, that is secession, because Texas is part of a federation"

I also deleted the second definition because I could find no evidence for such usage and it seems to be exceedingly opaque and trivial:

"Figurative. To give up fandom of a media franchise."

Rexparry sydney 05:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)Reply