Talk:solution

Software solution

I think this article lacks the I.T. use of the term. Nicolas1981 06:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

You are probably right. Could you help me out with a possible definition, either here or in the entry. DCDuring TALK 00:50, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

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solution

Rfv-sense 5, with respect to "Satisfaction of a claim or debt". As an attorney, I have never seen a use of "solution" to refer to a satisfaction of a claim or debt in any sense other than the common meaning of a solution to a problem or puzzle, nor does this term appear in Black's Law Dictionary. bd2412 T 03:34, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Century has the sense, so it might be 'UK', 'obsolete', or 'UK, obsolete'. Webster's 1913 and 1828 have "Release; deliverance; discharge.", 1913 showing it as obsolete. DCDuring TALK 03:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Cited. Evidently there are more legal terms than are dreamt of in your dictionary, not that it isn't obsolete or archaic. DCDuring TALK 14:42, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I had searched Google Books fairly extensively before nominating this, and found nothing. I went back and searched more deeply in much older materials, and found:

• 1708, Watson against Forrester, in William Maxwell Morison, The Decisions of the Court of Session: From its First Institution Until the Separation of the Court into Two Divisions in the Year 1808 (1811), volume 15, page 755:

  There was neither foundation in law nor reason in this process, for the backbond being in the granter's hand, it was chyrographum apud debhorem repertum, which presumes liberation, satisfaction and solution; and as to the notes written on the back of it, only for his own memory, it were strange and extraordinary case to make that probative, when it might be the state of their affairs at that time in 1697, whereas he lived four or five years after, viz. till 1701, during which time Watson and he have cleared all their accounts, otherwise there was more than sufficient time for Watson* to have got his backbond renewed, which he never did during all that space.

I would call this 'UK, obsolete, rare'. bd2412 T 15:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't think the Google searches always lead to the same results even with exactly the same search terms. I searched for co-occurrences with "debt", "obligation" etc., mostly restricted to the subject "legal".

A hapax legomena, say, one found in use only in a single "well-known work", is rare. This one might just be hard to find. It seems easy to understand in use, which makes it archaic, not obsolete. Also, it was defined in Bouvier's (1856):

"SOLUTION, civil law. Payment.

2. By this term, is understood, every species of discharge or liberation, which is called satisfaction, and with which the creditor is satisfied. Dig. 46, 3, 54; Code 8, 43, 17; Inst. 3, 30. This term has rather a reference to the substance of the obligation, than to the numeration or counting of the money. Dig. 50, 16, 176. Vide Discharge of a contract."

Bouvier's, useful for older legal terms, and some more contemporary legal glossaries probably inferior to a current Black's are available at OneLook. DCDuring TALK 16:55, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

This must be related to solvent (somebody being solvent if they have no debts). Compare the chemical terms solution and solvent. Equinox ◑ 17:00, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. But I can't get a good intuitive clarity about the connection. Lewis & Short has a lot about solvo. Apparently it covered many kinds of loosings. The debt sense seem to come from the idea of freeing oneself or one's property from being "fettered" by some legal bond (eg, servitude? mortgage). solvendo esse was to be able to pay one's debts. DCDuring TALK

Striking. I am satisfied that this is cited. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:04, 19 July 2013 (UTC)