Talk:stöbern

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RFC discussion: August 2021–January 2022[edit]

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The entry should IMO be split up in at least two sections, as is implied by the etymology section: one term borrowed from Low German (definitions 2&3), the other one from MHG (def. 1). The meaning "to clean up" (labeled as "Southern German") looks like there's a third term involved, derived from Staub(?), but perhaps this belongs in its own Alemannic German entry? --Akletos (talk) 06:30, 6 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Akletos: I did some cleaning. — Fytcha T | L | C 02:16, 18 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

RFC-resolved here. — Fytcha T | L | C 16:31, 18 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

This was mistaken. Neither of them is really borrowed from Low German. "Stöbern" is a Central German form; Low German is "stöwern". And in fact the word for "hound" is also common in Low German; see entry in Deutsches Wörterbuch. The division led to the absurdity that a specifically Southern German sense was derived from Low German. Moreover, the regular outcome of this verb should be "stäubern", irrespective of whether you derived it from "stäub + ern" or from "stäuber + n". So the fact that both have regional "ö" also shows that they did not develop independently. I've put them back into one etymology, but mentioned the noun influence. 82.82.152.162 18:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)Reply