Talk:strange-ass

RFD discussion: April 2023–January 2024

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strange-ass

SOP: strange + -ass. Could be duplicated for any number of adjectives.--Simplificationalizer (talk) 01:19, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

• Delete as SoP. — Sgconlaw (talk) 22:07, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
• Delete as SoP. We also have crazy-ass, lazy ass, smartass, and wild-ass (as adjectives). — excarnateSojourner (talk · contrib) 01:59, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
  • Here are of all the -ass adjectives we have which I find to be plainly SoP:

• big-ass
• crazy-ass
• dumb-ass
• fly-ass
• gay-ass
• grown-ass
• lazy-ass
• punk-ass
• raggedy-ass
• shitty-ass
• short-ass
• sick-ass
• sketch-ass
• smartass
• stank-ass
• strange-ass
• suck-ass
• wild-ass

 

— excarnateSojourner (talk · contrib) 06:49, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

I think some of these like smartass, suck-ass, punk-ass, and grown-ass have validity since their meanings wouldn't be necessarily obvious from analyzing "(word) + -ass". However others like big-ass, lazy-ass, crazy-ass, fly-ass and strange-ass do appear SOP since their meanings are essentially "very (adjective)". One might even call them SOP-ass entries... – Guitarmankev1 ^(talk) 12:57, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

• @User:Guitarmankev1 Hmm, I agree with you about smartass and suck-ass; I've struck those. But it still seems to me that the adjective senses of grown-ass and punk-ass are SoP: "You're a grown-ass man" == "You're a grown man"; "Some punk-ass kid tried to stop me" == "Some punk kid tried to stop me". (Perhaps the suffix adds emphasis, but that is irrelevant to idiomaticity.) — excarnateSojourner (talk · contrib) 04:56, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

  @ExcarnateSojourner: Hm, I suppose when you compare them with sentences like that, you have a good point. – Guitarmankev1 ^(talk) 12:59, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

• Comment: It wasn't obvious to me, is it an American oddity? DonnanZ (talk) 08:17, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

  As far as I'm aware "ass-constructions" are an American thing, specifically AAVE. – Guitarmankev1 ^(talk) 17:17, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

  Delete. If it was ever an AAVE expression, it has not been so limited for a long time. See xkcd number 37, which would have been from 2005 or 2006. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 17:23, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

  Right, I'm not claiming that use of the -ass suffix is limited to AAVE (especially not anymore), only that it originated in AAVE and may be exclusively American. – Guitarmankev1 ^(talk) 17:39, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

  There are a few words with arse ... see the arse#Derived_terms section for examples ... many of them are plainly adaptations of pre-existing American coinages, but open-arse is not .... it's just a question of whether it's the same "arse" or not (I'd say not). —Soap— 08:20, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

• Keep all, for more than one reason ... but I dont think I need to list them all .... just the fact that there's three different meanings of "ass" used in this list (intensifier, anatomical, and unwelcome person) is enough in my mind to rule out their being sum-of-parts. I get that other people dont see it that way, but rather than have the same argument on every RFD I'd rather just stake out my position in the shortest and simplest way possible. Thanks, —Soap— 08:16, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
  • To be clear, I did not intend to broaden the scope of this nomination by listing related terms above, but just to give context. — excarnateSojourner (talk · contrib) 04:56, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

I understand, thank you. But my rationale is based on the existence of the open formation process which gives the words unpredictable meanings, and so applies to every word in the set, even if we only consider one at a time. —Soap— 18:07, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Keep per Soap. Binarystep (talk) 11:36, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Keep per Soap. Americans seem to be blissfully unaware that this word may not be used elsewhere in the English-speaking world. DonnanZ (talk) 11:56, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

• Delete. It's not that Americans are unaware this may not be used elsewhere, but I don't see how the definition of strange-ass as "very strange" isn't SOP of strange and the first definition listed under -ass: "Used to intensify an adjective". That is, I don't see how strange-ass is any more unique than any (adjective) + -ass formation? Should we also have entries for narrow-ass, wide-ass, wet-ass, dry-ass, etc? – Guitarmankev1 ^(talk) 12:34, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per Guitarmankev. SOP. -ass already has the appropriate tags (US, Canada). PUC – 14:18, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
• Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:17, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Keep all. Please avoid doing batch nominations. Some of these blatantly pass by policy with WT:COALMINE. See also: WT:HOSPITAL. I don't get why we have these checks if no one uses them. It's extremely frustrating. AG202 (talk) 14:58, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

This does not seem a batch nomination because only strange-ass is tagged. Pinging @ExcarnateSojourner for confirmation. J3133 (talk) 15:07, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

• @AG202 This is not a batch nomination; I've learned my lesson with those. (See my reply to Soap above.) Thank you, J. It seems I've confused multiple people with my list, so I've struck the entire list for the sake of clarity. — excarnateSojourner (talk · contrib) 17:35, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

• Kept strange-ass. Denazz (talk) 22:37, 16 January 2024 (UTC)