Talk:take out the trash

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Rfd-sense. Remove rubbish. That's just [[take out]] [[the]] [[trash]] isn't it? Mglovesfun (talk) 13:52, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I've taken a stab at the sort of placeholder definition that has been proposed for these. The problem with deleting these SOP senses entirely is that we are left with an entry that appears to be incomplete -- or even misleading, when the SOP sense is overwhelmingly more common, as it is here. As a consequence, the senses are likely to be added again, then have to be removed again, etc. etc., which gets a bit tedious. So I guess I would put myself down as a very weak keep. -- Visviva 14:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm okay with the rewritten version. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:47, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Keep as now written. This is a recurring problem with idioms. It can get really silly when there are numerous distinct non-idiomatic senses. As an alternative, could we put the literal sense in the etymology? Users may ignore the etymology, of course, so the same repeated re-entry may arise. Maybe we could try it for a while on some common terms and see if it works. DCDuring TALK 16:42, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

FWIW, I don't like this newfangled business of moving definitions into other parts of the entry just because they're a little awkward. Not only may direct users skip over this information, but indirect users may never see it at all. I would want the output of google:define:take out the trash to (continue to) include the literal meaning as well. -- Visviva 09:53, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Keep current version.​—msh210℠ 18:02, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Kept. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC)