Template talk:sla-decl-noun

Wiktionary:About Proto-Slavic#Nouns suggests to use {{sla-decl-noun}} for o-stems, but this template defines *pěnędzь as i-stem. Is it bug or one of 5% cases? —Игорь Телкачь 16:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah the digraph screwed it up. I'll see to fix it. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 19:12, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Now it works. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 19:15, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Good. Now i also noticed that singular vocative was *pěnęže but now it's *pěnędze. —Игорь Телкачь 19:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Which one is correct? --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 20:04, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm not expert in palatalization. Judging by descendants dz is ok — 3rd palatalization, but there is also 1st which changes ge > že (see *kъnędzь). —Игорь Телкачь 23:53, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

dz

The template doesn't detect dz as palatal and makes errors in the declension of stьdza. Нікола Стѣпаньскъ (talk) 17:28, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Fixed (diff1 + diff2). —Игорь Тълкачь (talk) 19:43, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Add a function to change order of cases

Is it necessary for you to add a function for changing orders of cases, just like the different Latin case orders in different countries? Bhuyquang1 (talk) 09:11, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

SgDat/Loc accent paradigm c mistake

According to w:en:Proto-Slavic_language#AP_c_nouns, for a-stems of accent paradigm c, SgDat flexion doesn't bear a stress (and hence we shall see the stress on the stem, of the different kind), whereas SgLoc flexion does. But the template currently produces the reverse.

Accentless SgDat flexion is also confirmed by a variant of the Serbo-Croatian SgDat form, namely rȗci, which someone added to ruka#Serbo-Croatian, as opposed to SgLoc, which has just a single variant, namely rúci (Neo-Shtokavian moved stress). (Though, I cannot verify Serbo-Croatian data in any way here, I can only trust the editor who added it.)

Below follows a comparison between the forms currently shown in w:en:Proto-Slavic_language#AP_c_nouns and currently shown by the template. (For a-stems only, because I haven't yet looked and checked the other stems.)

Apart from SgDat/Loc problem, also note the difference in the kind of stress in PlGen for nõgъ (I wonder which is correct).

Declension of *dušà (soft a-stem, accent paradigm c)

	singular	dual	plural
nominative	*dušà	*dȗši	*dȗšę̇
genitive	*dušę̇́	*dušù	*dũšь
dative	*dušì	*dušàma	*dušàmъ
accusative	*dȗšǫ	*dȗši	*dȗšę̇
instrumental	*dušejǫ́	*dušàma	*dušàmi
locative	*dȗšī	*dušù	*dušàsъ, *dušàxъ*
vocative	*duše	*dȗši	*dȗšę̇

^* -asъ is the expected Balto-Slavic form but is found only in some Old Czech documents; -axъ is found everywhere else and is formed by analogy with other locative plurals in -xъ.

Declension of *nogà (hard a-stem, accent paradigm c)

	singular	dual	plural
nominative	*nogà	*nȍdzě	*nȍgy
genitive	*nogý	*nogù	*nògъ
dative	*nodzě̀	*nogàma	*nogàmъ
accusative	*nȍgǫ	*nȍdzě	*nȍgy
instrumental	*nogojǫ́	*nogàma	*nogàmi
locative	*nȍdzě	*nogù	*nogàsъ, *nogàxъ*
vocative	*nogo	*nȍdzě	*nȍgy

^* -asъ is the expected Balto-Slavic form but is found only in some Old Czech documents; -axъ is found everywhere else and is formed by analogy with other locative plurals in -xъ.

Example Late Common Slavic nouns in AP c

		Fem. short -ā	template	Fem. long -jā	template
		leg		soul
Singular	Nom	nogà		dušà
	Acc	nȍgǫ		dȗšǫ
	Gen	nogý		dušę̇́
	Dat	nȍdźě	nodzě̀	dȗšī	dušì
	Inst	nogojǫ́		dušejǫ́
	Loc	nodźě̀	nȍdzě	dušì	dȗšī
Plural	Nom	nȍgy		dȗšę̇
	Acc	nȍgy		dȗšę̇
	Gen	nõgъ	nògъ	dũšь
	Dat	nogàmъ		dušàmъ
	Inst	nogàmi		dušàmi
	Loc	nogàxъ		dušàxъ

--Imz (talk) 15:58, 17 September 2023 (UTC)